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they are. warriors without swords, hawks without wings. patriots by the page, soldiers of the sound bite. that's "hardball." thanks for joining us. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. effective immediately, i am banning mr. sterling for life from any association with the clippers organization or the nba. mr. sterling may not attend any nba games or practices. he may not be present at any clippers facility and he may not participate in any business or player personnel decisions involving the team. >> good evening from new york. nba commissioner adam silver, relatively new to the job, made
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that remarkable announcement today that he was banning l.a. clippers owner donald sterling for life after the league confirmed it was him on tapes that were made public in which sterling makes a slew of oh racist comments to his then girlfriend. we have word the clippers will old a pe game news conference in this hour during which they will address today's news for the first time as a team. we'll bring it to you live. in a moment we'll talk to bill maher about the news. earlier, commissioner silver made it clear that the sterling's comments have to no place in the nba. >> the views expressed are deeply offensive and harmful. that they came from an nba owner heightens the daniel and my personal outrage. as for mr. sterling's ownership are interest in the clippers, i will urge the board of governors to exercise its authority to
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force a sale of the team and are will do everything in my power to ensure that happens. >> in an era where people with power and wealth seem to face no accountability for misdeeds silver's actions were applauded by the players, particularly the de facto leader of nba players in this matter, sacramento mayor and former nba all-star, kevin johns johnson. >> these events remind all of us that hatred and bigotry are far from over. i hope that every bigot in this country sees what happened to mr. sterling and if he can fall, so can you. >> roger mason, the vice president of the national basketball players association, let it be known how far nba players were willing to go. >> additionally i reached out to other players around the league and made it clear that the
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players were ready to boycott the games if this type of action was not something that adam silver felt was necessary. we want a timetable from the owners as far as when the vote will happen. we feel confident that with adam silver's urging and we have heard from a lot of owners around the league. we think it is something that can be handled quickly. >> forcing sterling to sell the tale under the constitution of the nba will ire the approval of three quarters of the 30 owners. commissioner silver said he was confident he'd get the votes f. the initial reaction is representative silver will succeed. dallas mavericks owner mark cuban who said yesterday that forcing sterling out of the league could be a slippery slope today tweeted, "i agree 100% with commissioner silver and the actions taken." kr are fr the bulls, we will
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support his recommendation to press for mr. sterling to relinquish his ownership. from the warriors, we anticipate the board will put this behind us. from jordan, there can be zero are tolerance for racism in the nba. there were similar statements from the 76ers, manager owner, the celtics and the new york knicks as well as the pacers and nuggets. from magic johnson who is interested in buying the clippers, a string of tweets including commissioner silver showed great leadership in banning l.a. clippers owner dond sterling for life. meanwhile on the clippers website you see this. we are one. on the miami heat, we are one. it was repeated on numerous websitings today. the suns, nuggets, milwaukee bucks. from the world of politics the reaction was bipartisan approval with congressman john louis saying it was the right thing to
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do and mitch mcconnell during a routine press conference being informed of the decision in real time. >> they banned him for life, the harshest possible penalty. ban him for life from games, $2.5 million fine and silver is urging him to sell the team. >> sounds pretty good to me. >> all this in anticipation of the pregame news conference in just a little bit. followed later by what could be the most watched first round nba playoff game in history. you are looking at a live shot of the staples center in los angeles, california, where the game will be played. there will be players. there will be fans, but there will be no donald sterling who as been banned from attending the games of the team that for the time being he still owns. one has to imagine that commissioner silver recognized that insufficiently forceful response might have precipitated the kind of dramatic action by players tonight ta the league would have had a hard time ever
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recovering from. from the l.a. clippers today, this statement. we support and embrace the decision by the nba and commissioner silver today. now the healing process begins. joining me now is bill maher, host of "real time" on hbo. i'm curious to hear your reaction that donald sterling is banned for life after today verified the voice on the tape saying those things was, in fact, him. >> it's hard to talk about this guy on msnbc. i can't say [ bleep ], can i? is that a word -- okay. so i will call him an ass. it's a great thing that america agrees and can gather around that fact. i have lived through a numberrc.
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it wasn't with always that way. it's their league. they can do what they want. people still have are the right to be an ass, you know? it is creepy that you are recorded in your own home. but he's a strange kind of racist. i will say that. it's really all about the girl like showing up with black men. it's still that black men are taking our women thing. that's what's at the bottom of this. >> there is a deeply creepy sub text, i agree, on the tape. there are so many layers of awfulness cap cured in the interaction it's hard to tease them apart. i'm not sure i agree. well, there is unanimity in condemnation of him but you are seeing people here and there take his side and focus on the fact that he was taped, maybe set up, et cetera. i'm curious if you will see more of that as people rush to defend
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sterling. >> kwon who these people are. maybe you read right wing blogs i don't. of course rush limbaugh will always take whatever racial thing happens in america and within a nano-second find a way to say something worse. that's a given. the creepy part is when you get taped in your own house and that goes to the world no one here is defending on sterling. that's creepy to mement we can't even speak in our house anymore. i don't know how the tape gets out there, why it's legal. i'm more concerned about things like that than i am the nsa, which i am concerned about, too. >> yeah. the part of the taping, the fact that it was taped privately, we think, without his knowledge. it strikes me that if you had this situation with someone who didn't have the record that donald sterling had -- the record of lawsuits alleging
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racial discrimination, not just personally toward people in the organization but housing discrimination. the fact that people knew this guy had scummy views, that you wouldn't get the same level of punishment you're seeing now which to me seems like the totality of the donald sterling experience lo these many decades. >> right. you bring up a good point. people knew about this guy. his players, some of them at least, must have known that he had been sued. he had many instances before this that showed his true colors. they still kept taking the checks. the naacp was giving him an apart until yesterday. so, you know, that's a little disturbing in its own right. >> i think that you have talked a lot about the way we have these moments of collective outrage around things people
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say. you have pushed back on that. you had a monologue sort of about liberals and their obsession with political correctness. i want to play it for you. take a listen. >> as a comedian i don't like it when political correctness nazis hound me to apologize for every slight and when i have to learn to pronounce words like chai and quinoa. i get it. liberals can be obnoxious. they don't want politicians nagging but what we can name the football team, how big our soda can be, who we have offended, we have wives for that. >> is this a situation that's so far over the line that it doesn't strike you as a liberal p.c. lynch mob? >> let me first say you took a three and a half minute editorial i did, mostly not about the subject you showed.
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when you show it out of context it doesn't make sense. the point we were making, it started asking how do republicans win elections? how do they do it when they don't represent the people. there are more of us than there are of them. they are crazier than they used to be. i then went into how do they do it? obviously the voter fraud stuff, gerrmandering, et cetera. then i went into cultural resentment. heart landers to resent unimportant things that come up with liberals or get them to vote against their own interest. these people are voting against their own interest. they are cutting off their nose to spite their face. if you look at one of the biggest republican voting blocks, it's poorly educated
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white people -- people who need a minimum wage hike. bank has obama's name in it. that's disturbing them. it was a bigger point but i don't shy away from the fact that liberals sometimes are obnoxious. >> there is something to the mode of scolding or the fact that we have thousand, particularly with social media, these outrage brush fires happen more routinely, it seems to me. there are times when even i, someone who -- i don't know -- makes my living chronicling these outrage brush fires, wonders if we end up -- the it is striking to me that donald sterling's lawsuit payout on housing discrimination is going to get about 1/1000 of the coverage we'll give to this taped conversation. >> absolutely. it's something else that sucks
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up the oxygen. this is a different issue. it's important, too. espn seems to have found their malaysian plane. every minute we talk about don sterling we are not talking about things that are more important. if we were really covering what's important there would be a banner headline in the newspaper every day that says the planet is dying, the ice caps are melting, we must do something very, very soon or we are all going to die. maybe not in this generation. but if you have little kids -- and i know you do -- i would be terrified at what the world will look like in 50 years. that's what's important. not sterling. we are human beings. this is america. that's not going to happen. >> why is it that what people say -- what is it about someone saying something like what donald sterling said or what cliven bundy said that grips our
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imagination? you are a comedian and make hay out of that. i know if i walk in on a tuesday the and we have this crazy tape there is something that captures people's imagination or clarifies things in a way that, oh, this federal lawsuit settlement happened today and i will read it to you doesn't. >> well, part of it is especially with the racial stuff, it's an opportunity for self-congratulation. >> that's right. >> i'm one of the good people because i say this guy has to go. well, yeah. we all agree this guy is a bad guy. there are not that many opportunity ps for a lot of people to contribute to society. so they feel like one way they can contribute to society is by making bad people go away. you are a bad person don imus. don wasn't a bad person. he had a rotten joke with a
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racial overtone. i'm sure he wishes he could take it back. paula deen, actually worse because she was a racist doing bad things. that's where it's important. when it crosses over from opinion. you do have the right to be an ass in this country, to things people do. what paula deen was doing -- running a restaurant, discriminating against people, that's actually concrete. it's actionable and is in a different category in my view. >> the point of self-congratulation as it pertains to the moments of racial controversy is on the money. the easiest thing to do is get up and say cliven bundy is wrong about slavery. donald sterling has contemptible views of african-american people. it allows you to wear some kind of pin on your lapel that puts you in a category that isn't them. it makes it seem like the real racist is a tiny group of old
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cranks who no one deals with in real life. >> i tweeted this yesterday. donald sterling is 81. do you know what will take care of this kind of racism -- the flu. you know, because it kills old people, the flu. >> bill maher explaining his jokes. he does it often on hbo. catch him may 3 at penn state and foxthe woods in connecticut. always a pleasure. i hope to see you soon. >> thanks,s chris. i appreciate it. >> we'll go live to the clippers game which is set to begin after this show ends ahead. keep things simple. that's why he brings his magic eraser extra power. it quickly cleans hundreds of different surfaces, so you can get back to doing what you really want. the magic eraser extra power. but when we put something in the ground, feed it, and care for it, don't we grow something more?
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coming up, the clippers pregame press conference live and a look ahead to tomorrow. we'll talk to valerie jarrett, senior add viedser to president obama about guidelines released by the white house today on how to best combat the sexual assault epidemic. lack of accountability that's
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secretary of state john kerry is in hot water for saying something behind closed doors others have said in public. >> it is my belief secretary kerry has proven himself unsuitable for the position he holds. >> this is beyond something requiring an apology. this is a resigning-type statement. >> conservatives are calling for secretary of state john kerry to resign. even some democrats are turning against him. what did the secretary of state do that was so terrible?
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>> a unitary state winds up either being an apartheid state with second-class citizens or it winds up being a state that destroys the capacity of israel to be -- >> he warns if a peace agreement isn't reached between the israelis and palestinians israel could become, quote, an apartheid state. the audio was obtained p by the daily beast and fox news has taken kerry to task for using the word "apartheid". >> he used apartheid. that expression to describe iz are reel and now the world is horrified. >> word is charged like holocaust. >> should he say apartheid? absolutely not. >> last night kerry walked back the statement though not apologizing saying i will not allow my commitment to israel to be questioned by anyone, particularly for partisan, political purposes. if i could remind the tape i would choose a different word to describe my firm belief ha the
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only way in the long term to have a jewish state and two nations and two people living side by side in peace and security is through a two-state solution. the word apartheid as it relates to the future of israel is explosive because of what it's meant to evoke. the south african apartheid state where a white minority ruled over a black majority who had no political rights. we saw what happened when former president jimmy carter wrote the book "palestine, peace not apartheid" which compared the countries. >> i make it plain in the book that apartheid is not based on racisms as it was in south africa. it is based on the desire of a minority of israelis to acquire land that belongs to the palestinians. >> the use of the word elicited strong condemnation. >> i have been concerned about what president carter had to say. i don't think a lot of it's been helpful in any way. >> abraham foxman of the
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anti-defamation league said the title is to delegitimize israel calling carter bigoted and outrageous. former publisher of the new republic called carter a jew hater. nancy pelosi said the jewish people would support a government in israel or anywhere else that institutionalizes ethnically based oppression. in a 2008 interview then senator obama said jimmy carter's suggestion is emotionally loaded, historically inaccurate and not what i believe. if warning that israel is headed toward being an apartheid state disqualifies john kerry from being secretary of state what do you the say to israeli leaders who made the comparison? in 2007 then israeli prime minister omer said iz are reel could face a struggle for equal voting rights. in 2010 and then the israeli
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defense minister said if there is no two state solution israel is an apartheid state. last year israel's lead peace negotiator said they should ask what kind of state they want to leave the gas reserves? to a jewish democratic israel or a binational arab state or an apartheid state. john kerry used the comparison to describe a specific potential future in israel. one in which demographic trends render the jewish population a minority on the totality of land they govern with a palestinian majority thats has no self-determination. if the word apartheid -- the wrong one to describe that state of affairs, what exactly is the right one? >> joining me now, ceo and president of the israel project, an advocacy group. so josh given that they have been warning about this, why is this out of bounds for john
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kerry to warn of this if a two-state solution isn't reached? >> it's a question of language and a question of what's right to advance the cause of peace and what's accurate in its description. politicians in israel, first of all, they are making an argument inside their own domestic political context. they have often made mistakes. you cited that remark for each of the people once. it's the kind of thing you say once and realize you shouldn't say. seems to be the experience secretary kerry has had. israel is a vibrant democracy. you have a free press, free society. women's rights, gay rights, arabic is an official language. >> is it a democracy in the west bank? >> yeah. we have palestinians who vote for the palestinian authority. unfortunately abbas, as you know, is serving the tenth year of a four-year term. they just did a deal in which they say they will have elections again. people hope that happens. >> they don't have a state in the west bank. they can't control the borders.
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to oh oh go to work in telaviv they have to go through checkpoint. none of the trappings we would accept. >> i'm not sure that's true. the notion that folks have to stand at checkpoints for two hours isn't always true. the language of apartheid has been foisted on the dialogue by folks intending to under mine israel. started many years ago. israel was describeds a racist state. >> yes. >> this has a legacy, a history. there is a purpose why detractors kwus the language. it's not accurate. i was about to say there are a dozen members who are arabs. arabs in the west bank who want to appeal to the israeli supreme court. >> josh, here's the thing. the reason people make this warning is because they sense a lack of you are squen si to create the two-state solution. i sat in the winery at a table with the ye sheh council and said this is unsustainable.
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you have to do something. the leader of the movement said, no. why does anything have to change? there is no one bombing our pizzerias. we have jobs. we are creating software jobs. this is fine in perpetuity. the warning comes because there is a constituency inside israel and the u.s. that people like john kerry fear have no sense of urgency about getting to a two-state solution. >> i share with you the desire to see israelis and palestinians at peace and have are a reconciliation and a of wonderful opportunity to have children grow up in a life like yours and mine. the vast majority of israelis do. you see polls showing 70 to 80% who would like to see that happen. secretary kerry's effort over the last nine months to get to a peace agreement. the palestinians didn't want to do. they didn't want to continue with the framework for the negotiations. when you got to the end of the period they didn't want to keep talking to each a future. to the contrary abbas did a deal
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with ha mass which is a terrorist organization. the israelis want to have peace and you could find lots of folks with different views about coexistence and what's possible. >> a lot of them in the netanyahu governments which was actually upset. many members of the government were upset when the u.s. was pressuring toward peace talks. >> i'm not sure. in israel the prime minister of israel at the hometown is elect bid the people. there is no better way than to pull the peace rabbit out of the hat. if they believed he was possible they would do the it. netanyahu turned over more territory to the palestinian authority than any other prime minister when he's been prime minister. >> and the settlements continue to grow. here is the question. say there is no solution. say peace talks break down and however the blame is apportioned in the peace talks breaking down. when you look at iz asraisrael'e 30 years from now what would you describe the continued maintenance of the territory, particularly in the west bank in which you have israeli
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settlements, israelis living under civil law, palestinians living under israeli military law. what is the right word to describe it if that's the status quo in perpetuity? >> it's a good question. i don't think we have to consign ourselves or the israelis, the palestinians have to look at the future and decide it is the only one or that it has to be a future that's in that situation forever. there are lots of creative situations you have heard in the past. jordan jordanian citizenship. some people believe you can have a full measure of equality and there is no demographic threat to israel . i think the vast majority of israel ares hope for a two state solution but that language won't help. it gives the palestinians a reason to pull away from peace. that's unfortunate. >> josh, thanks for your time. >> my pleasure. >> we are awaiting a live news conference as the clippers get ready for their pregame take on
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we had a pregame news conference by the clippers on a day of action by adam silver against l.a. clippers. host craig melvin is at the clippers game in l.a. i am jealous. what's the scene like there? it must be a bizarre scene for an nba playoff game. >> that's an excellent way to describe are it. i spoke to the spokesperson for the los angeles police department a few minutes ago. there had been a number of planned demonstrations.
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clippers, golden state warriors, game five of the playoffs. as you indicated that game has been largely over shadowed by what we have seen happen over the past few days. there was a social media campaign launched asking fans to show up to the game tonight asking them to show up in protest to wear black. we have seen a lot of folks wearing black t-shirts. this is one of the more popular black shirts. as you can see, los angeles clip him. on the back the clippers logo, sterling, minus one. >> that's good. >> pretty clever. we have seen a number of shirts we can't put on television, even on cable news in primetime. i have talked to a lot of folks over the course of the last day or so. it's interesting to err them talk about not just donald sterling or how it played out, but there are a lot of folks who would like to see this end in a particular way.
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a lot of folk s would loik to see magic johnson swoop in to pick up the team. the team valued now around $600 million. even if magic doesn't have that kind of money. a number of backers perhaps swooping in as well. saving the day. >> obviously the coup degrace would be to sign up and instagram that the for everybody to see. craig, enjoy the game. you can catch craig saturdays at 2:00 eastern, sundays at 3:00 on msnbc. do not go away. it's my back. i mean bayer back & body. it works great for pain. bayer back & body provides effective relief for your tough pain. better? yeah, thanks for the tip! you're not doing anything as fast as you used to, which is funny, because i still do it better than her. [ afi ] i do not like sweeping. it's a little frustrating. [ zach ] i can't help out as much as i used to.
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i didn't poll the owners. i spoke to several owners i have their full support. the owners have the authority, subject to three-quarters vote of the ownership groups of the partners to remove him as an owner. >> we await the pregame news conference of the l.a. clippers. it is clear adam silver will seek unprecedented redress against clippers owner donald sterling. three-quarterses of the owners feed to vote in favor of stripping ownership from sterling by forcing him to sell the team. that's the next big step. joining me, michael die son, and my colleague from the nation dave zire. dave, i've got to say i was surprised today. everyone kind of in the office was like, whoa, when silver came out to make the announcement.
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partly because we got word saying it would be an indefinite ban. were you surprised? what brought this about? >> it dropped the hammer. i felt like adam silver was in a position where he could do nothing but drop the hammer at this point. when you have players staging protests, coaches like mark jackson of the warriors did saying the fans shouldn't show up until this is solved. when you have open discussions of boycotts and sponsorses leaving in droefs you hit the owners where it hurts -- in their pocketbooks or the fear that it will hit the pocketbook. not surprised. i was more surprised at the press conference afterwards with johnson that he didn't push on a demand he said earlier that he wants a full accounting from the nba about how they could have coddled him for so many years. >> when we spoke last night you said shg interesting. you said you have to let the process play out. you seemed confident that there
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would be intense sanctions. how much immune indication do you think there was from players saying you better do this. or good luck having an nba playoffs this season. >> there was a lot of communication. i was proud of the way the players stood strong. everybody wanted them to do something drastic too early. they handled it maturely and strategically. they gave him time to do his due process. if this doesn't turn out right are they will take further action and go stonger. they did what they were supposed to do. what was interesting is donald sterling is defiant saying he doesn't want to sell. it's amazinging. he lacks character. when he had a discrimination lawsuit in the past he didn't apologize or say he was sorry. he said, okay, i will settle for $2.7 million but i didn't do
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anything wrong. he probably feels like the victim. >> i have been amazed by the reaction from ownerses. mark cuban said, well, this is a slippery slopement some of the owners are thinking, oh, the things i have said in private there are going to show up on iphone recordings on tmz. do we want to kick someone out of the club? are where does it end? it was boom, boom, boom. owner after owner after owner. what do you make of that? >> we are riding the silver lightning there. mark cuban yesterday made a statement about the slippery slope. he slipped right on down with the rest of us. furthermore made a false equivalence saying what's next? what about homo phobia and religion? there's never been an outlawing in the same way jim crow outlawed the ability of the
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racists to intermingle. and there was never the work to put harsh penalty on anybody like here with african-american people. the ownerses have to own up to the fact that race plays a unique role in thx of the country and in the history of the nba. >> forget the country for a second. their league. what you saw -- >> is black. >> you saw wealthy white people staring into the headlights of a train. you could see the fear in everyone's eyes. well, guys, who do you think plays in the league? who buys your tinckets, jerseys buys what the advertisers sell. it was an amazing moment to see the power dynamic of oh what everyone in that league understood was going to come down on them if they didn't do something dramatic. >> there is no question about
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it. one of the differences is adam silver, as he announced today and this was part of today, is not david stern. david stern, the commissioner for 30 years, someone who coddled donald sterling for many years who didn't do anything when the housing discrimination slum lord lawsuits went down. he's out of the picture. adam silver was able to say, we are turning the page. when we talk about these things there is form and content. the content was very, as we said, the hammer comes down. but the form could not be more different from stern who adopted this pompous attitude when he was up there as if he was the godfather. >> okay. dave, i will cut you off. we have doc rivers right now. >> hello, everybody. i come with no notes e es or prepped statement here. the last three, four days have been very are difficult for
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everybody involved. no matter what the race is, it's been difficult. i thought adam silver today was fantastic personally. i thought he made a decision that really was the right one that had to be made. you know, i don't think this is something that we rejoice in or anything like that. i told the players, you know, about the decision. you know, i think they were just happy it was a resolution and it's over. at least the start of it to be. other than that, you know, i was just really proud of them. i have been proud of the playerses in the nba overall. i have been proud of the ownership throughout the league. and i think we are all in a better place because of this. i would like to open it up to
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questions. >> when you first sat down you sat there and had a big sigh of relief. is that how you feel about things? is that the way the players feel? this is finally behind us? can you move forward now? >> we can move forward. we have to. you always have to move forward. i have said it before. obviously i have dealt with issues before. you learn over and over that when something like this happens with the burden of racism, it always falls on the person who has been offended to respond. i have always thought that's interesting. you know? i felt the pressure on my players. you know, everyone was waiting
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for them to give a response. i kept thinking, you know, they didn't do anything. yet they have to respond. so adam responded. and i thought that was the sigh of relief that we needed. is this over? no, it's not over. it's the start of the healing process that we need. it's the start for our organization to try to get through this. that's very important. i know we have a game. you know, i have given that thought obviously. i do think the this has been more important. and i think our players have done the best they possibly could do in this situation. >> did you at any time or the players realize that you were working for a man who held such
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racist views and did you witness such out ranrageous behavior? >> i didn't. you have heard the stuff. listen, it hadn't happened to us. we hadn't seen it. so the answer would be no. i came here in good faith. everything i have asked, they have allowed me to do. then this happened. there was proof. [ inaudible question ] >> listen, i hadn't thought about it. i hadn't thought about leaving, staying. the main reason is honestly this should not be about me. this is about me and what i'm doing or want to do.
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i want to coach. i love coaching. i have enjoyed these guys. other than that, really i think someone asked that question. honestly, i don't have an answer. i hadn't given it -- zero thought as far as that goes. obviously adam's decision, if there was going to be one, makes mine easier. >> doc, do you need to see -- over here. do you need to see progress toward the sale of the team for you to be more kfcomfortable an the playerses to be comfortable? donald still owns the team. do you need progress for that to be comfortable here? >> i think we are just going to let this play its course, run its course. then we'll have better clarity. you know? i'm not in a position, nor do i want to be in a position where it sounds like i'm threatening
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anything. i want my players to be comfortable. honestly. i think that's the most important thing. and so let's just see where it goes with them. that's important for me. their comfort. >> now that the nba has said this is definitely mr. sterling's voice, mr. sterling were before you now what would you say to him? >> i don't know. i haven't given it any thought. you know, i don't know the answer to that question. you know, i think we have dealt with people who have said bad things before racially or in another way. i think the thing you would like to do to anyone like that who feels that way is you would like to change it. that's what i would like to do. i'd like to change anyone's mind who feels that way. >> coach, now that you know the voice on that recording was
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donald sterling, do you still want to work for him? >> i don't know if i am. you know? i really don't. that's the point of this. that's why adam did what he did. >> are will you continue if he still owns the team next season? >> i don't know if he will. let's just, again, let it run its course. it's a good question. i'm not trying to be a smart alek. we have to wait and see. like i said, i think once we have an answer, the clarity for everyone -- it's not just me. it's every one. re f lawler has been here forever. he's affected by this, too. we all are. so i think everyone wants to know who they are working for. i think that's very important.
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>> had this decision not come down was there concern your players would have refused to play? >> no. they were waiting for a decision. that could have happened. that was one of the reasons i didn't have practice yesterday in a clear practice situation when you get blown out you should probably have a practice. i just didn't think it would make sense to do it. they needed to go home and be with their families and breathe. knowing adam would have a press conference today we knew there would be a resolution. i was almost happy his noult was during our practice. none of the players were watching it. we were preparing for the game because that's what our jobs
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are. afterward is when they found out. that turned out good. >> they are capable of being comfortable tonight. >> yes. >> can they play with the freedom you want? >> i'm hoping. the basketball part, we have prepared them as best as you could. emotions drain energy. i know that. i felt it the other night. when you watch on tape we were slow in everything. that's because of all the emotions that have gone into this. i didn't think our guys had enough in the tank. i think they have been able to breathe more over the last day and a half. i'm hoping they are up for thes as the thing. i think this will be a safe haven for us tonight. our crowd will be amazing tonight. i think that will help them.
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adrenaline will be good for us. we need it. >> doc, give us a sense of how the player reaction was, what they were feeling. >> it was during a film session. in the middle of it, i just said what happened and what adam said. honestly, there was nothing in the room at that time. when i said it. it was complete silence. i said what i thought i neededed to tell them. we went right back to film. do you think it would be best if donald sterling was no longer owner of the team? >> i don't think he will be. i think that's clear. adam has made that clear unless there is something different than a lifetime ban. you know, a lifetime ban is a
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lifetime ban. that's already been decided. yes, i think that's the right decision. the next step is where do we go? i don't know who to call if i need something. the quicker this is pet done, the better for everyone. having said that, it will take time. we all have to be patient. >> obviously the players, yourself, you are wealthy men. at the same time you are working for a man with these views. how insulting is it to you as a human being to work for a man who expressed these views? >> that's the difficult part. over the next three, four days it's been difficult. you know, doesn't matter the wealth to be honest. you could be making nothing. you want to

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